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Ian m
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PostPosted: 2006-09-06 15:24:33
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After having seen SD DVDs displayed on numerous HiDef displays looking well
crap!!! and seeing SD DVDs scaled using a propper doggiies danglers
scaler (Lumagen) in HiDef got me wondering if there were any offline line
software scaling solutions. ie put you DVD into your PC, it rips it to hard
disk, then spends however long (days ??) scaling it to 720p/1080i/1080p etc
(maybe saving it as a HiDef DiVx etc) for display on your video card that
has HDMI output ?


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the dog fro..ilm you saw
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PostPosted: 2006-09-06 15:41:36
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Ian m wrote in message
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> After having seen SD DVDs displayed on numerous HiDef displays looking
> well crap!!! and seeing SD DVDs scaled using a propper doggiies
> danglers scaler (Lumagen) in HiDef got me wondering if there were any
> offline line software scaling solutions. ie put you DVD into your PC, it
> rips it to hard disk, then spends however long (days ??) scaling it to
> 720p/1080i/1080p etc (maybe saving it as a HiDef DiVx etc) for display on
> your video card that has HDMI output ?
>


no point.
you COULD take the 720x576 resolution dvds, and process them so that they
become a hi def resolution of your choice.
there wouldnt be any point though - they wouldnt magically gain extra detail
that wasnt there to begin with.
also, if you play said dvds back from your pc using normal pc playback
software, they will be scaled to the output resolution of your pc anyway.
pulldown removal etc would mainly be down to your graphics card drivers.


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Justin Cole
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PostPosted: 2006-09-06 18:09:19
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the dog from that film you saw wrote
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> Ian m wrote in message
> news:8uSdnet7zYzGR2PZnZ2dnUVZ v2dnZ2d@tcp.co.uk...
>> After having seen SD DVDs displayed on numerous HiDef displays looking
>> well crap!!! and seeing SD DVDs scaled using a propper doggiies
>> danglers scaler (Lumagen) in HiDef got me wondering if there were any
>> offline line software scaling solutions. ie put you DVD into your PC, it
>> rips it to hard disk, then spends however long (days ??) scaling it to
>> 720p/1080i/1080p etc (maybe saving it as a HiDef DiVx etc) for display
>> on your video card that has HDMI output ?
> no point.
> you COULD take the 720x576 resolution dvds, and process them so that they
> become a hi def resolution of your choice.
> there wouldnt be any point though - they wouldnt magically gain extra
> detail that wasnt there to begin with.
> also, if you play said dvds back from your pc using normal pc playback
> software, they will be scaled to the output resolution of your pc anyway.
> pulldown removal etc would mainly be down to your graphics card drivers.

Hmmm, personal preference possibly. You could take SD input and generate HD
via an algorithm such as MDDF (Multi-Direction Diagonal Filter) that could
be perceived as better quality than SD on a HD device...

Justin.


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the dog fro..ilm you saw
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PostPosted: 2006-09-06 20:18:31
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Justin Cole wrote in message
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> Hmmm, personal preference possibly. You could take SD input and generate
> HD via an algorithm such as MDDF (Multi-Direction Diagonal Filter) that
> could be perceived as better quality than SD on a HD device...


youd still be duplicating what your pc does anyway - not to mention the tv
itself.
and it still wouldnt contain any extra picture information.

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Ian Middleton
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PostPosted: 2006-09-06 13:43:13
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the dog from that film you saw wrote:
> Justin Cole wrote in message
> news:j9ELg.6785$TF5.971@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
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> > Hmmm, personal preference possibly. You could take SD input and generate
> > HD via an algorithm such as MDDF (Multi-Direction Diagonal Filter) that
> > could be perceived as better quality than SD on a HD device...
>
>
> youd still be duplicating what your pc does anyway - not to mention the tv
> itself.
> and it still wouldnt contain any extra picture information.
>
Yes I know, but from personal experience a SD 720x576 DVD (via SCART)
looks a hell of a lot better scaled using a Lumagen scaler than the
scalers built into the current crop of HiDef displays.


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Italo
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PostPosted: 2006-09-07 07:17:30
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Ian m wrote in message
news:8uSdnet7zYzGR2PZnZ2dnUVZ v2dnZ2d@tcp.co.uk...
> After having seen SD DVDs displayed on numerous HiDef displays looking
> well crap!!! and seeing SD DVDs scaled using a propper doggiies
> danglers scaler (Lumagen) in HiDef got me wondering if there were any
> offline line software scaling solutions. ie put you DVD into your PC, it
> rips it to hard disk, then spends however long (days ??) scaling it to
> 720p/1080i/1080p etc (maybe saving it as a HiDef DiVx etc) for display on
> your video card that has HDMI output ?

Your numerous HiDef sets must be crap and/or have a crap internal scaler.
Ive got an Hitachi PJTX200 projector (with a 2m diagonal screen) and video
quality of SD DVDs is never less than excellent, whether through its HDMI or
analog connections.

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Justin Cole
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PostPosted: 2006-09-06 21:43:11
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the dog from that film you saw wrote
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> Justin Cole wrote in message
> news:j9ELg.6785$TF5.971@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
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>> Hmmm, personal preference possibly. You could take SD input and generate
>> HD via an algorithm such as MDDF (Multi-Direction Diagonal Filter) that
>> could be perceived as better quality than SD on a HD device...
>
>
> youd still be duplicating what your pc does anyway - not to mention the
> tv itself.
> and it still wouldnt contain any extra picture information.

YMMV. Some people like processed images ;-)

Justin.


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