HI-FI

I am confused about plasma tv resolutions.

The plasma tv I want to buy has a native resolution of 852 x 480,
Can this be increased for PC display using, say, TV Tool?

At the moment I use TV Tool and my Geforce4 ti4200 to comfortably display my
PC via TV-out at 800 x 600 resolution on my 28 widescreen tv, it seems
strange that a 37 plasma would be a lower resolution.

Sorry, if this is the wrong newsgroup, if anyone can point me in the right
direction, that would be great,

lisa

lisa wrote in message
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No, although you might be able to display a low resolution version, but the
results will be pretty ****.


It doesnt have to be this way, some plasmas e.g. Philips 42PF9965 have
higher native resolution (1024x1024) and a VGA in socket. OTOH it costs
more.



See cross post.

lisa wrote in message
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The plasma doesnt have a lower resolution. Your GeForce will be
rendering an image at 800x600 to its framebuffer, but the output will be
interpolated to standard interlaced PAL resolution. So it will show quite
comfortably on any screen (although it may be less then clear!). If you are
keen on using your computer with a plasma I would look out for a screen
which has either a VGA (15pin DSUB) or DVI connection so you can bypass the
conversion to inerlaced PAL.

- Ian

Hello Lisa

Whatever display type you use TV, Plasma, LCD etc if the Display has
less pixels (resolution) than you have your PC Graphics card set at
then somewhere in your signal path the system has to throw away info
you would normally see on a PC monitor that has a resolution to match
the output of your graphics card.

With your current set-up the TV out on your graphics card is throwing
away the info the TV cant resolve.

With an 852x480 Plasma you can connect the graphics card via its VGA
out to the Plasma and as long as your PC resolution is one that is
supported by the Plasmas internal electronics the Plasma will now
throw away the info it cant resolve - this will look better than and
certainly no worse than your TV displaying a PC; and use the VGA out
not the TV out on the graphics card as this will look way too soft on
the Plasma.

If you plan to do a lot of PC viewing and require to see lots of
detail - line drawings, digital image manipulation etc Id look at a
1024x768 display from Pioneer or Panasonic as possibly being the best
compromise to deliver decent video along with sharp looking PC images.

If your PC viewing is mostly say web surfing you will find the down
scaling on the 852x480 displays is actually pretty acceptable - though
if you were using text and email a lot again Id go back to a 1024x768
(the soon to be superseded Pioneer PDP-433MXE is a good place to start
your search for the best compromise).

The 1024x1024 displays are a bit of a technical bodge job and though
pretty good I prefer the 1024x768 displays when it comes to video
playback.

Best regards

Joe

joe@tmfsolutions.co.uk

Joe

Are you saying the Panasonic/ Pioneer plasmas at 852 x 480 pixel screens
(obviously sqare pixels) are better than 1024 x 1024 pixel screens
(rectangular pixels?) such as the Hitachi 42PMA400E.

I am one of the ditherers who cant make up there mind. I think I need a
screen with component for DVD & Svideo or RGB for sky + and Pace Twin,I do
not see the point of a analouge tuner box.

When you see a demo it always seems to be using a cartoon dvd with solid
colours, I would like to see a off air digital picture.

Regards Dave
Joe Fernand wrote in message
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Hello David

Pioneer have always stuck with 1024x768 in there 43 Plasma Display
and PlasmaTV models - both models use the same panel one with an
internal video card (MXE) the other with an external Media Box (HDE).

Panasonic offer two options in the 42 display (though you would be
forgiven for thinking they only had one as the higher resolution unit
gets so little press) - Standard Definition (SD) is 852 x 480 and
Higher Definition (HD) is 1024x768.

Both Pioneer and Panasonic are Progressive scan devices and will
accept video signals from Interlaced sources (and apply progressive
scan processing within the display) and Progressive sources (bypassing
progressive processing in the display).

The 1024x1024 ALIS panels you have seen/researched are all based on
technology designed and manufactured by Fujitsu (with Hitachi a
partner in this technology).

ALIS was originally conceived to enable lower cost panels to be built
for the corporate signage and display market - these panels are
interlaced (there are not actually 1024x1024 pixels if you count them
- there are 1024x512) and by upping the refresh rate to double the
normal rate Fujitsu claim they can achieve 1024x1024 without you
noticing the change over!!!

The Fujitsu panels will work with Interlaced or Progressive sources -
and in some models apply third party progressive deinterlacing to the
incoming signal - BUT they then have to turn the progressive signal
back to interlaced again.

For me thats just way too much processing and I prefer the Pioneer
and Panasonic units and would suggest you look at the 1024x768 units.

I too would avoid the units with a Tuner box - though the Pioneer
04HDE is probably the exception to that rule as the Media Box is way
better than previous offerings.

Look to using your AV Receiver as a video and audio hub or add in an
external hub (Zektor, DVDO, Lumagen) for simplicity of switching and
operation.

Where possible use RGB not S-Video from your Digibox. There are lots
of options for connecting up a system - drop me a note and I can try
and narrow down your options a bit.

Best regards

Joe

joe@tmfsolutions.co.uk